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the reason you see that screen up there

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is I wanted to share something with you

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last a couple of days I think it was

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over the weekend possibly uh Chris Leto

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and I did a part one in part two of the

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UFO hearings breakdown and part part one

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is on his his uh

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YouTube channel which is called the Lido

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files and part two is on mine and check

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those videos out if it's on the YouTube

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channel only on his YouTube channel it's

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not as a podcast but anyway we have a

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lot of fun Chris is always a great guy

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to talk to especially about these type

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of things so so uh check that out when

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you get a chance the guest for the for

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the evening is Dan Ferrari and uh he had

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a UFO sighting when he was young got him

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interested in the topic and his father

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remained rather his father who was in

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the military remained rather mysterious

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about uh what his thoughts were and

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possibly there was some type of inside

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connection that he may have had in the

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military we're going to talk a little

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bit about that and he also has a Sci-Fi

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book out uh after they came I believe

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it's along the title along that lines

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and um it's basically based on a person

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down on his luck deciding to end it all

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being

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um abducted more or less and then um you

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know uh they uh is changing mankind it's

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something like that I didn't get a

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chance to even Breeze through the books

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so I'm not really sure but um I do want

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to talk to him mostly about his UFO

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sightings and then we'll get into the

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book later on so our blog uh this week

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is uh it's actually part two from last

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week letters from the island principles

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and the mercy set UFO bulletin part two

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another one by the great uh Charles Lear

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those are made I'm a little bit backed

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up in the audiobooks but we put those up

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in audio blogs so I want to thank you

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all for participating watching tonight

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we do have chat if you have a question

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for our guests please put it in all caps

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and I am ready to bring them in Dan

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welcome to the show Dan thank you Martin

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very nice to be here thank you for

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having me on I appreciate it yes and you

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showed up at the very last second wow I

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mean literally 15 seconds I'm very

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punctual I actually got that from my

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father may he rest in peace

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to show up right at the last second

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something about it my dad did it show up

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on any door anywhere on the planet Earth

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within 10 seconds of what time he said

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he was going to be there he just had an

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well that was that was close but thank

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you so much for joining us and uh that's

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quite a background you have um seeing I

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see those electric drums and all kinds

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of things going on you were a publicist

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for many years you were into the music

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sure I can give you a little background

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if you'd like

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so uh my name is Dan Harari I've been a

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Hollywood publicist Martin for 40 years

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Believe It or Not wow 14 years and

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January it'll be 40 years the pictures

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you see on my walls behind me

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are pictures of me with very famous

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people from the last 40 years and all of

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them appear in my first book my first

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became an author last year my first book

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is called flirting with Fame a Hollywood

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publish history clowns 50 years of

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celebrity Close Encounters and uh the

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Hollywood for 40 years

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early 70s and I had very long hair and I

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was a drummer you can see my electronic

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drugs behind me here

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um I worked for a concert hall and I

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grew up in Asbury Park New Jersey and

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who's from Asbury Park it's famous now

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Bruce Springsteen so believe it or not

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Bruce Springsteen and right when he was

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forming the E Street Band and he my best

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friend and I did his stage crew and his

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lighting for a couple of shows in Asbury

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two years before Born to Run so two

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years before anyone else ever heard of

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with Spielberg Jerry Seinfeld Mel Brooks

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you had it with um Spielberg which is

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pretty pretty interesting uh you never

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got to play the drums here's a picture

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of you on the drum set years ago

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you never played drums with with Bruce

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did you well I'll tell you an

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unbelievable story you won't believe it

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but this is a true story Okay so

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I worked with Bruce in 73 when I was a

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high school I'm all I'm 17. a very good

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friend of mine was in gym class with me

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the handball I remember and he goes hey

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Danny Bruce Springsteen is auditioning

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drummers for his fan because this friend

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of mine was friends with Bruce

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Springsteen like actual friends who Cruz

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and he goes he's auditioning drummers

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what do you think about trying out and

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Martin I said you know man I'm into Led

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Zeppelin and and cream and the who I'm

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not into Bruce's music so I'm gonna pass

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I'm gonna pass I can't even accept it

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didn't even occur to me to audition

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that says it all man that's that's like

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the people that rejected the Beatles you

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know Deco records rejected the Beatles

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okay I would like to hear about you had

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you had a few sightings and uh I love to

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tell uh I'd love people to tell their

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stories about sightings and uh uh you

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were with your dad with uh one in

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um and I want to also talk about

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what your thoughts were about your dad

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and what he may or may not have known

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absolutely great and I really appreciate

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the question so again I grew up just

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near Asbury Park New Jersey to Jersey

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Brooklyn and they got married in 1952

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and uh and then a few years later they

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moved to what's called West deal which

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is adjacent to Asbury Park

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was an electronics engineer for the U.S

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army he worked at Fort Monmouth which

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different missile systems and drones and

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radar systems he once told me that he

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was in on the very earliest days of the

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designing drones okay so let's keep that

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March 1970 the Jersey Shore I'm uh done

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sure it was Hebrew school my dad picked

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and I saw through the windshield in my

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father's car right above my father's car

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an enormous silver letter v like Victor

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father's car going incredibly slowly

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maybe two three hundred feet in the air

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no propellers nothing just a v just a

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the car so my dad stopped the car he and

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of the car we both looked straight up

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Martin literally above our head and I

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always come check out look Dad look it's

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just so cool this is so cool I'm gonna

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tell all my friends

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it's great it's in this great dad isn't

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this great and Martin he looked at her

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like he was looking at a head of lettuce

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in the supermarket no expression on his

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nothing whatsoever no interest no fear

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like and then he looked down at me he

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winked at me that that was very cool

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that he winked at me and said come on

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kid let's go

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we went home I called the local

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newspaper I remember the phone call it

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was on a rotary phone this is 1970. oh

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and the lady said young uh she goes

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young man I can't talk to you now I'm

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getting hundreds of phone calls about

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the siding I can't talk to you right now

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uh keep your eyes out open in the paper

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right so every day that week Mark and I

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checked the paper Asbury Park Press

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nothing no story nothing nothing nothing

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now the big picture about that sighting

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that event happened

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for 47 years

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until my dad passed away

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went to a deli in West there's my dad

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love that's why probably my favorite

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picture that's 1957. you see that my dad

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with his pens and his pencils oh yeah

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yeah I never in my life saw him without

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pens and pencils in his pocket

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even on weekends technology my dad was

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the prototypical science nerd he always

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had pens and pencils always

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so anyway 2017 my dad passed I'm very

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sad I went to get a pastrami sandwich at

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a deli

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I ordered the sandwich I'm sitting there

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waiting at the table and I swear to you

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this is true I'm just sitting there

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thinking about my dad and something from

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heaven or God or my dad is an angel or

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something from the universe just came

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through the window of the deli into my

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brain

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like like sort of like a little beam of

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light and and I played for me in my

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the 1970 sighting I had with my father I

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saw it as a movie

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I forgot about it for 47 years

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not getting it back like you but I've

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heard of people saying that they totally

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forgot about a UFO sighting until

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something

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and then I remembered all the details it

275
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said that exactly right and I I kind of

276
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think maybe because I believe my dad's

277
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in heaven that maybe my dad sent me this

278
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memory I'm telling you the truth you

279
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know honestly people some people don't

280
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believe me but it's absolutely true

281
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because I forgot about it and I saw like

282
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a movie that we pulled over the car we

283
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got out I'm jumping up and down I saw

284
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the crap I saw my dad's face and then I

285
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remembered my dad winked at me

286
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now this is 2017. and as I'm waiting for

287
00:12:58,310 --> 00:12:55,200
my pastrami sandwich Martin I'm like wow

288
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my dad must have known what that was

289
00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:02,279
right my dad worked for the Army at a

290
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military base he had taught he was a

291
00:13:09,829 --> 00:13:07,620
gs-13 which is a very high level for a

292
00:13:11,810 --> 00:13:09,839
civilian he was he was not in military

293
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he was a civilian engineer but very high

294
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level I know he had top secret clearance

295
00:13:17,150 --> 00:13:16,019
because he used to tell me and my mother

296
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you know I can never tell you guys

297
00:13:20,210 --> 00:13:18,839
anything about my job you know that

298
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right

299
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he looked at it with no like no surprise

300
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no surprise at all and he winked at me

301
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so as I'm waiting for the sandwich I

302
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realized for the first time in my life

303
00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:34,620
that my dad must have done with that

304
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craft was

305
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I truly believe that now now we come to

306
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the part about my mother my mother is 88

307
00:13:46,730 --> 00:13:43,440
she's still alive

308
00:13:48,829 --> 00:13:46,740
so after I had the memory come back I

309
00:13:50,810 --> 00:13:48,839
called my mother I said Mom did Dad ever

310
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talk about UFOs

311
00:13:56,030 --> 00:13:53,459
she said no but when he started at this

312
00:13:57,769 --> 00:13:56,040
job at Fort Monmouth they took him deep

313
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into the vaults there

314
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they showed him something top secret she

315
00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:03,600
said he came home that night white pale

316
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and shaky

317
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and she said to him honey what's wrong

318
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and he said I saw something today it's

319
00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:12,000
top secret and I could never tell you

320
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about it ever

321
00:14:17,410 --> 00:14:14,880
and he never did

322
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my mother thinks he saw something

323
00:14:21,110 --> 00:14:19,980
futuristic she doesn't think she saw an

324
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alien

325
00:14:27,290 --> 00:14:23,700
I think he may have seen some recovered

326
00:14:29,389 --> 00:14:27,300
alien technology this is my theory and

327
00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:29,399
when I told my mother about the Silver v

328
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just just the other day I was describing

329
00:14:36,410 --> 00:14:33,300
it to her she goes she goes you know

330
00:14:38,750 --> 00:14:36,420
your father invented drones that were

331
00:14:39,710 --> 00:14:38,760
very futuristic looking and spied on our

332
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enemies

333
00:14:45,050 --> 00:14:42,360
so Martin I think the V that I saw with

334
00:14:46,970 --> 00:14:45,060
my father I'm not saying he designed or

335
00:14:49,069 --> 00:14:46,980
built that particular one

336
00:14:52,850 --> 00:14:49,079
but I believe because it was so close to

337
00:14:55,490 --> 00:14:52,860
the military base I think it was a drone

338
00:14:58,370 --> 00:14:55,500
that my dad was involved with in some

339
00:15:01,189 --> 00:14:58,380
way he looked at it as though he were

340
00:15:02,569 --> 00:15:01,199
familiar with it and I think perhaps he

341
00:15:04,970 --> 00:15:02,579
had something to do with the technology

342
00:15:07,850 --> 00:15:04,980
of that crap so I believe that that UFO

343
00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:07,860
in 70 was a man-made military craft

344
00:15:11,329 --> 00:15:09,120
huh

345
00:15:14,269 --> 00:15:11,339
how about that

346
00:15:16,250 --> 00:15:14,279
um you know you said

347
00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:16,260
you you said from what you could recall

348
00:15:20,509 --> 00:15:18,240
of course this is after so many years

349
00:15:22,009 --> 00:15:20,519
that it didn't make any noise you

350
00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:22,019
remember it didn't make any noise it was

351
00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:24,240
moving very slowly you didn't see any

352
00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:27,839
propulsion uh visible propulsion how

353
00:15:35,090 --> 00:15:32,399
would you think that this thing would be

354
00:15:36,889 --> 00:15:35,100
at all or anything I mean I know you

355
00:15:38,569 --> 00:15:36,899
can't I mean they don't have any drones

356
00:15:41,389 --> 00:15:38,579
like that now that I'm aware of maybe

357
00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:41,399
they do but uh you know it seems like if

358
00:15:46,250 --> 00:15:44,120
that was a drone developed back then

359
00:15:48,889 --> 00:15:46,260
that could

360
00:15:52,250 --> 00:15:48,899
uh float or hover or whatever it seems

361
00:15:57,050 --> 00:15:55,129
well it well could be it well could be I

362
00:15:59,449 --> 00:15:57,060
mean the bigger question Martin I guess

363
00:16:02,030 --> 00:15:59,459
is you know there are so many UFO and

364
00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:02,040
UAP sightings around the world you know

365
00:16:06,590 --> 00:16:04,320
there's better than me every year every

366
00:16:09,530 --> 00:16:06,600
country around the world not everything

367
00:16:11,810 --> 00:16:09,540
is from uh not everything we see up

368
00:16:14,689 --> 00:16:11,820
there is alien I believe at least the

369
00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:14,699
third is but you know

370
00:16:19,129 --> 00:16:17,519
this craft based on my dad's area I'm

371
00:16:21,410 --> 00:16:19,139
just going based on my Dad's reaction

372
00:16:24,769 --> 00:16:21,420
what my dad did his whole life for work

373
00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:24,779
the fact that I know because I saw the

374
00:16:30,170 --> 00:16:27,839
movie in my head and like as clear as

375
00:16:32,750 --> 00:16:30,180
I'm looking at you right now it plays in

376
00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:32,760
my head exactly the colors the the day

377
00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:35,040
the sunlight the clouds everything it

378
00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:36,959
was just hovering it just was floating

379
00:16:41,749 --> 00:16:39,240
it was just it wasn't Zoom you know it

380
00:16:43,490 --> 00:16:41,759
was just yeah very leisurely and then it

381
00:16:46,009 --> 00:16:43,500
just went over my whole neighborhood

382
00:16:47,150 --> 00:16:46,019
yeah now this is interesting a few weeks

383
00:16:49,310 --> 00:16:47,160
ago

384
00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:49,320
there was an article about me and

385
00:16:55,610 --> 00:16:52,320
deciding in the Daily Mail newspaper in

386
00:16:57,889 --> 00:16:55,620
England which is online and I got I got

387
00:16:59,810 --> 00:16:57,899
an email from someone from New Jersey

388
00:17:02,090 --> 00:16:59,820
this is a couple weeks ago and he said

389
00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:02,100
Dan I read about you and your father's

390
00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:05,520
citing in 1970. he said my three older

391
00:17:12,350 --> 00:17:09,299
siblings saw the exact same craft in

392
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:12,360
March 1970 we were one or two towns over

393
00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:14,160
from where you lived with your father

394
00:17:17,449 --> 00:17:15,360
there it is

395
00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:17,459
he said we were my siblings were a

396
00:17:20,569 --> 00:17:19,260
couple of towns over they saw the same

397
00:17:22,010 --> 00:17:20,579
exact thing and their whole lives

398
00:17:23,929 --> 00:17:22,020
they've been waiting for verification

399
00:17:25,250 --> 00:17:23,939
they said thanks for that article

400
00:17:26,289 --> 00:17:25,260
because now they know that they weren't

401
00:17:29,390 --> 00:17:26,299
crazy

402
00:17:32,210 --> 00:17:29,400
I was not the only person that saw that

403
00:17:34,669 --> 00:17:32,220
other people in the world saw that

404
00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:34,679
yeah that's uh validation for yourself

405
00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:36,240
as well

406
00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:38,940
so so yeah do I know I know that

407
00:17:42,169 --> 00:17:40,799
happened because I remember it very very

408
00:17:44,930 --> 00:17:42,179
vividly

409
00:17:47,750 --> 00:17:44,940
um and again after my dad passed away

410
00:17:50,210 --> 00:17:47,760
for the first time ever

411
00:17:52,549 --> 00:17:50,220
the whole this none of the scene came to

412
00:17:55,789 --> 00:17:52,559
me his reaction came to me

413
00:17:57,470 --> 00:17:55,799
and I put two and two together based on

414
00:17:59,830 --> 00:17:57,480
my dad's career

415
00:18:03,409 --> 00:17:59,840
and I know he was very heavily into into

416
00:18:06,110 --> 00:18:03,419
the development of drugs from from the

417
00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:06,120
50s on he was early part of developing

418
00:18:09,470 --> 00:18:07,200
drugs

419
00:18:11,330 --> 00:18:09,480
so perhaps you know look I don't think

420
00:18:12,289 --> 00:18:11,340
that was an alien craft

421
00:18:13,490 --> 00:18:12,299
I I

422
00:18:15,470 --> 00:18:13,500
it could have been

423
00:18:17,450 --> 00:18:15,480
I think if it was alien I think my dad

424
00:18:18,909 --> 00:18:17,460
would have shown like some sort of

425
00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:18,919
surprise or something

426
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:21,120
but I'm telling you man he looked at it

427
00:18:26,169 --> 00:18:22,559
like he was looking at his car getting

428
00:18:30,770 --> 00:18:28,970
could that have been tested that nearby

429
00:18:34,370 --> 00:18:30,780
you I mean is that

430
00:18:36,890 --> 00:18:34,380
did he work in a military base yeah yeah

431
00:18:39,289 --> 00:18:36,900
he worked at Fort Monmouth military base

432
00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:39,299
oh yes you said that I'm sorry yes and

433
00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:42,720
in fact in fact my neighborhood

434
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:51,289
um a huge huge open field and I remember

435
00:18:55,850 --> 00:18:53,280
they I think they called the field the

436
00:18:58,909 --> 00:18:55,860
the something testing testing grounds or

437
00:19:01,130 --> 00:18:58,919
it was just a huge open field many many

438
00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:01,140
acres of land they never did anything

439
00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:02,880
with it when I was a child back there

440
00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:05,760
and they called it the testing grounds I

441
00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:07,740
don't know maybe they launched it from

442
00:19:12,350 --> 00:19:10,320
that wherever it came from I truly

443
00:19:13,970 --> 00:19:12,360
believe it came from very close nearby

444
00:19:16,490 --> 00:19:13,980
my my house

445
00:19:18,409 --> 00:19:16,500
now you say like the letter V did it

446
00:19:20,330 --> 00:19:18,419
have uh

447
00:19:22,909 --> 00:19:20,340
like a structure

448
00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:22,919
as the like just say did it looked just

449
00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:26,400
like a bold leather letter v

450
00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:29,280
in the sky you know or was it connected

451
00:19:34,250 --> 00:19:31,440
it wasn't like a triangle it would have

452
00:19:35,630 --> 00:19:34,260
like a V and then it goes off into two

453
00:19:39,549 --> 00:19:35,640
arms

454
00:19:44,570 --> 00:19:39,559
right exactly literally giant silver

455
00:19:47,330 --> 00:19:44,580
letter v no it was not a close triangle

456
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,340
I do remember there was a light on each

457
00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:49,679
of the three points that's what I was

458
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:52,679
going to ask you because um there's a

459
00:19:58,010 --> 00:19:54,960
lot of the sightings they say there's a

460
00:20:02,810 --> 00:19:58,020
a light on each point and I'm just gonna

461
00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:05,630
a craft a lot of people said like the

462
00:20:09,230 --> 00:20:07,080
Phoenix Lights I don't know if you've

463
00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:09,240
looked into other you know sightings but

464
00:20:12,890 --> 00:20:10,860
like the Phoenix light oh yes of course

465
00:20:14,930 --> 00:20:12,900
because you were involved in mufon and

466
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,940
all kinds of things so

467
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:16,799
um I forgot about all that you have a

468
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:20,880
background in in uh basically looking

469
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:25,200
into the UFO world since yeah since 2007

470
00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:28,640
is when I became a I'd say a UFO

471
00:20:34,010 --> 00:20:31,919
Enthusiast was 2007.

472
00:20:37,730 --> 00:20:34,020
um the Phoenix Lights I believe that

473
00:20:40,130 --> 00:20:37,740
craft if it was one crap I believe it

474
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:40,140
was many many many times larger than the

475
00:20:44,330 --> 00:20:41,600
one I saw

476
00:20:46,610 --> 00:20:44,340
something like here's a picture is this

477
00:20:48,289 --> 00:20:46,620
was it something along the lines except

478
00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:48,299
you know with the lights at all

479
00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:50,760
extremities instead of the center ones

480
00:20:57,950 --> 00:20:54,960
too okay so the same shape yes the one I

481
00:21:01,789 --> 00:20:57,960
saw again was silver shiny silver shiny

482
00:21:04,370 --> 00:21:01,799
shiny silver one light on the tip and

483
00:21:05,690 --> 00:21:04,380
the end tip and the end tip

484
00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:05,700
um now the one you're showing me here

485
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:08,400
looks like it's pointing up toward to go

486
00:21:12,669 --> 00:21:10,320
straight up the one I saw Martin was

487
00:21:15,770 --> 00:21:12,679
flat it was it was flying horizontally

488
00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:15,780
completely completely horizontally yeah

489
00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:18,120
that's so the same shape the same exact

490
00:21:21,710 --> 00:21:19,679
yes the same shape you're showing me

491
00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:21,720
that's what I said yeah and this was a

492
00:21:27,230 --> 00:21:23,460
daylight sighting but you saw the lights

493
00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:27,240
were on yeah yeah yeah

494
00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:29,340
that's absolutely true well that's

495
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:31,679
interesting and you had two more

496
00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:33,120
sightings I would like to talk about

497
00:21:40,730 --> 00:21:36,720
sure sure and again and then we'll get

498
00:21:43,789 --> 00:21:40,740
to the book because when I got that beam

499
00:21:45,710 --> 00:21:43,799
from my angel father let's say and saw

500
00:21:48,770 --> 00:21:45,720
the movie in my head

501
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:48,780
I got the whole premise of to write my

502
00:21:51,649 --> 00:21:50,159
book and we'll get we'll get to that

503
00:21:54,409 --> 00:21:51,659
after I tell you about the other thing

504
00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:54,419
but my book was born while I was waiting

505
00:21:58,730 --> 00:21:56,100
for that pastrami sandwich because right

506
00:22:00,289 --> 00:21:58,740
after I saw the movie I got a pen and I

507
00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:00,299
started jotting down notes on the

508
00:22:06,289 --> 00:22:04,260
placemat at the deli about writing this

509
00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:06,299
particular book so this book was given

510
00:22:12,049 --> 00:22:09,900
birth unto me like like it was a spirit

511
00:22:15,169 --> 00:22:12,059
something you know Paul McCartney once

512
00:22:17,390 --> 00:22:15,179
said um he dreamed the song yesterday he

513
00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:17,400
he dreamed the song yesterday he woke up

514
00:22:20,990 --> 00:22:18,900
and he played it on the piano because it

515
00:22:22,669 --> 00:22:21,000
got it from a dream and he's always said

516
00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:22,679
that he dreamed that song

517
00:22:27,409 --> 00:22:24,600
I was given

518
00:22:29,870 --> 00:22:27,419
this memory as a gift I'm telling you it

519
00:22:30,529 --> 00:22:29,880
was a gift to relive this memory with my

520
00:22:32,930 --> 00:22:30,539
dad

521
00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:32,940
it was a gift from above and then it

522
00:22:37,250 --> 00:22:34,440
triggered the birth of my book okay

523
00:22:39,289 --> 00:22:37,260
anyway so that was 1970 the first

524
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:39,299
society and again I completely and

525
00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:41,840
totally forgot about it I was a drummer

526
00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:44,760
then in eighth grade

527
00:22:50,750 --> 00:22:47,640
um I was in rock bands my bands played

528
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:50,760
at parties and dances and and bar

529
00:22:54,770 --> 00:22:53,280
mitzvahs and all those things and my

530
00:22:58,250 --> 00:22:54,780
friends and I were chasing little girls

531
00:22:59,810 --> 00:22:58,260
around so when I'm 14 and on you know I

532
00:23:01,730 --> 00:22:59,820
wasn't really thinking about aliens and

533
00:23:03,710 --> 00:23:01,740
UFOs I was thinking about rock and roll

534
00:23:06,110 --> 00:23:03,720
and girls in in mini skirts I mean

535
00:23:08,450 --> 00:23:06,120
that's what I was doing it so that's why

536
00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:08,460
the memory just didn't stick because my

537
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:10,440
dad never talked about it nothing ran in

538
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:12,960
the newspaper and I was playing uh

539
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:15,440
Beatles songs in eighth grade dances so

540
00:23:22,430 --> 00:23:18,240
that's part of why I forgot that all

541
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:22,440
right now we jump to 1998 uh no 1996 I

542
00:23:27,890 --> 00:23:25,440
always do that 1996.

543
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:27,900
I moved out to LA from the east coast in

544
00:23:34,430 --> 00:23:31,679
1980 when I was 24 and I got into the

545
00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:34,440
entertainment industry I got married I

546
00:23:39,470 --> 00:23:37,320
had two kids I got divorced and then my

547
00:23:40,370 --> 00:23:39,480
ex-wife and my two kids when they were

548
00:23:43,630 --> 00:23:40,380
small

549
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:43,640
moved from La proper to Lancaster

550
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:46,799
California Lancaster is the high desert

551
00:23:52,010 --> 00:23:49,200
and it's actually my ex-wife lived not

552
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:52,020
far from Edwards Air Force Base

553
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:55,919
so in 1996 my son was eight I used to

554
00:23:59,570 --> 00:23:57,600
visit my children every single weekend

555
00:24:02,510 --> 00:23:59,580
after my divorce when they were small

556
00:24:03,649 --> 00:24:02,520
that's great I bought him a telescope

557
00:24:06,049 --> 00:24:03,659
for his birthday

558
00:24:07,789 --> 00:24:06,059
I brought it out to Lancaster that night

559
00:24:09,789 --> 00:24:07,799
of his birthday we're looking up in the

560
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:09,799
sky through the telescope and we saw

561
00:24:13,549 --> 00:24:12,240
Saturn and Mars and the moon and all

562
00:24:14,810 --> 00:24:13,559
these wonderful things

563
00:24:17,149 --> 00:24:14,820
and then

564
00:24:19,549 --> 00:24:17,159
as I was going to put him to bed

565
00:24:23,390 --> 00:24:19,559
I noticed in the far right corner of the

566
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,400
sky an egg-shaped object that was very

567
00:24:28,850 --> 00:24:25,440
bright egg-shaped object very bright

568
00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:28,860
sort of off yellow off-white color

569
00:24:33,649 --> 00:24:31,200
and it was in the far right of the sky

570
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:33,659
and it went in a straight line all the

571
00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:36,000
way across the entirety of the sky as

572
00:24:41,930 --> 00:24:39,480
far as I could see in a straight line

573
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:41,940
straight line all the way across okay

574
00:24:46,130 --> 00:24:44,159
then it stopped in place

575
00:24:48,590 --> 00:24:46,140
which hand is this

576
00:24:49,549 --> 00:24:48,600
stop it stopped in place for about 20 30

577
00:24:52,730 --> 00:24:49,559
seconds

578
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:52,740
and then it went all the way back the

579
00:24:57,049 --> 00:24:55,200
same the same route that it came from I

580
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:57,059
can't do that with my hands

581
00:25:02,690 --> 00:24:59,760
but um so it appeared went all the way

582
00:25:03,950 --> 00:25:02,700
across this guy stop for 30 seconds and

583
00:25:06,110 --> 00:25:03,960
then went all the way back the same way

584
00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:06,120
it came from and I told my son when the

585
00:25:09,890 --> 00:25:08,100
first path I said Jordan there's a

586
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:09,900
satellite we're seeing the satellite had

587
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:10,799
to be

588
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:13,679
but after it stopped and reversed course

589
00:25:18,890 --> 00:25:17,159
then I thought wow um this kid it's in

590
00:25:21,289 --> 00:25:18,900
the satellite or an asteroid or a meteor

591
00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:21,299
this must be something remarkable I

592
00:25:24,649 --> 00:25:22,980
don't think it's man-made and I don't

593
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,659
think it's from nature I think this was

594
00:25:31,310 --> 00:25:26,880
an alien craft

595
00:25:34,669 --> 00:25:31,320
hmm yep yeah I mean it it sure it sure

596
00:25:36,890 --> 00:25:34,679
narrows it down that it can't be

597
00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:36,900
you know something of ours that we know

598
00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:39,900
of you know when it does yeah especially

599
00:25:44,269 --> 00:25:41,580
it sounds like this is very high

600
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,279
altitude right it was very high it was

601
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:46,320
very high now recently uh you know who

602
00:25:51,169 --> 00:25:49,440
Jimmy church is I'm sure yeah I did an

603
00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:51,179
interview with Jimmy church about a

604
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,880
month ago told him that story and he

605
00:25:58,130 --> 00:25:55,679
said Dan he goes you know Edwards Air

606
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:58,140
Force Base is right there and they test

607
00:26:02,690 --> 00:26:00,240
military crafts all the time

608
00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:02,700
and I said well you know I think you're

609
00:26:07,130 --> 00:26:05,460
right I think it was from Edwards it

610
00:26:09,049 --> 00:26:07,140
would look like Martin the way it flew

611
00:26:11,390 --> 00:26:09,059
because it flew stopped in the reverse

612
00:26:14,269 --> 00:26:11,400
it looked like it was being tested

613
00:26:16,970 --> 00:26:14,279
it could have been man-made craft with

614
00:26:18,769 --> 00:26:16,980
extraterrestrial technology

615
00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:18,779
that's what I think I think it was a

616
00:26:23,330 --> 00:26:20,700
man-made craft using extraterrestrial

617
00:26:25,610 --> 00:26:23,340
technology because the way it flew very

618
00:26:28,730 --> 00:26:25,620
quickly stopped in Reverse course I

619
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:28,740
couldn't imagine any other object plane

620
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,960
or helicopter or missile nothing else I

621
00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:32,400
could think of that could possibly do

622
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:34,140
that hmm

623
00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:36,960
yep that's that's pretty interesting I

624
00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:37,740
had

625
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:42,600
my one sighting and then I'm very

626
00:26:48,169 --> 00:26:46,080
careful about everything to even talk

627
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:48,179
about but I have had a couple things

628
00:26:52,909 --> 00:26:50,159
that were mysterious and it's kind of

629
00:26:55,730 --> 00:26:52,919
funny I I end up I end every show with

630
00:26:58,130 --> 00:26:55,740
Keep Your Eyes to the Sky well I I

631
00:27:00,830 --> 00:26:58,140
practice what I preach you know I'm

632
00:27:02,810 --> 00:27:00,840
always looking up in the sky no matter

633
00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:02,820
if I'm driving you know like of course

634
00:27:08,090 --> 00:27:05,100
not while I'm driving but I mean I have

635
00:27:11,570 --> 00:27:08,100
uh what is it called a panoramic roof in

636
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:11,580
my car and uh you know but I'm always

637
00:27:18,769 --> 00:27:15,840
uh watching for for things and uh before

638
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,779
I had my UFO sighting I I would you know

639
00:27:23,570 --> 00:27:20,640
glance or whatever but I wasn't always

640
00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:23,580
looking to the sky so uh when you are

641
00:27:28,610 --> 00:27:26,760
paying attention you see a lot more and

642
00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:28,620
but I've seen some things and I'm

643
00:27:32,810 --> 00:27:30,539
thinking everything that I've seen is

644
00:27:34,490 --> 00:27:32,820
most likely explainable but I don't I

645
00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:34,500
don't know uh one of them was pretty

646
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:37,740
interesting but I I still am hesitant to

647
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:39,840
say you know hey everybody I saw another

648
00:27:45,409 --> 00:27:42,960
UFO you know and uh it maybe it wasn't

649
00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:45,419
identified me but it probably was

650
00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:47,940
something explainable that's how I feel

651
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,460
okay I guess I understand you know I

652
00:27:54,529 --> 00:27:52,559
think the younger generation today

653
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:54,539
they're looking down why because they're

654
00:27:59,630 --> 00:27:57,200
looking at their phone their phones yeah

655
00:28:02,090 --> 00:27:59,640
you and I I'm I think I'm older than you

656
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:02,100
but I think our era we were more

657
00:28:06,350 --> 00:28:04,559
outdoorsy and we played Outdoors when we

658
00:28:07,970 --> 00:28:06,360
were kids

659
00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:07,980
um you know we take a hike and you look

660
00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:10,260
at the sky you know my daughter's 33 God

661
00:28:14,269 --> 00:28:12,120
bless her she lives on her phone

662
00:28:16,490 --> 00:28:14,279
yeah I say you know you should look

663
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:16,500
maybe look up every once in a while you

664
00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:19,200
know maybe lift up a little bit yeah I

665
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:22,860
was a I was a uh a doctor's waiting room

666
00:28:27,409 --> 00:28:24,960
uh recently oh and I don't know a few

667
00:28:31,130 --> 00:28:27,419
weeks ago and I was looking it was all

668
00:28:33,289 --> 00:28:31,140
people my age and older and every single

669
00:28:35,810 --> 00:28:33,299
one of them was staring at their phones

670
00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:35,820
so it's not it's not just young people

671
00:28:39,649 --> 00:28:38,220
it's like anyone that has oh they're

672
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,659
they are like you get all the

673
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:41,520
information in the world that's right

674
00:28:45,049 --> 00:28:43,919
here in your hand and it's it's hard to

675
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:45,059
break away there's probably people

676
00:28:49,250 --> 00:28:47,520
watching YouTube right now watching us

677
00:28:52,370 --> 00:28:49,260
on their phone you know I mean it's it's

678
00:28:55,730 --> 00:28:52,380
uh yeah it's like crack yeah phones are

679
00:28:58,430 --> 00:28:55,740
like crack they are yeah I'll be honest

680
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,440
if I misplaced my phone I I panic I'll

681
00:29:03,289 --> 00:29:00,960
panic I know I know we're it's our

682
00:29:04,669 --> 00:29:03,299
connection our leash to the world yeah

683
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:04,679
yeah yeah yeah

684
00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:08,640
um all right so I did the 70 I did 96.

685
00:29:15,769 --> 00:29:12,600
now we come to the year 2007.

686
00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:15,779
um I was in a uh I was in a bookstore in

687
00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:16,620
L.A

688
00:29:19,549 --> 00:29:17,940
in the books they're waiting for a

689
00:29:21,230 --> 00:29:19,559
friend to go see a movie

690
00:29:23,210 --> 00:29:21,240
and I just was walking around this

691
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:23,220
bookstore to kill time and I saw the

692
00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:25,320
paranormal books aisle

693
00:29:30,649 --> 00:29:28,140
and for whatever reason my entire life

694
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:30,659
up until that point I never saw a

695
00:29:37,250 --> 00:29:33,840
paranormal book style before and there

696
00:29:38,350 --> 00:29:37,260
was hundreds of books UFOs aliens outer

697
00:29:41,810 --> 00:29:38,360
space

698
00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:41,820
Bigfoot ghost Poltergeist Spirits

699
00:29:46,669 --> 00:29:44,760
witches you know all these you know all

700
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:46,679
off the wall things but they're they're

701
00:29:51,409 --> 00:29:49,440
all fascinating topics

702
00:29:52,850 --> 00:29:51,419
and I just had never seen them before so

703
00:29:55,130 --> 00:29:52,860
I just was like well I'm gonna get this

704
00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:55,140
and this the history of Bigfoot the

705
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:57,539
history of ufology Richard Dolan's book

706
00:30:02,990 --> 00:30:00,720
about disclosure all these I just I

707
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,000
bought a huge pile of books I bought 12

708
00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:05,279
books that day went home I read them all

709
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:07,260
and I'm like okay

710
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,080
I'm a fairly intelligent person

711
00:30:15,529 --> 00:30:12,720
I'm pretty you know I I'm well educated

712
00:30:18,110 --> 00:30:15,539
I know nothing about any of this

713
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:18,120
paranormal I know no thanks zero

714
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:20,159
information and there's a whole world

715
00:30:27,769 --> 00:30:23,760
here in front of me between 07 I joined

716
00:30:29,450 --> 00:30:27,779
mufon La same year 07. my very for they

717
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,460
have meetings every month

718
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:31,679
and Martin the very first meeting I went

719
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:34,320
to I was I was blessed because you know

720
00:30:39,529 --> 00:30:37,679
Giorgio sucralose from yeah everyone

721
00:30:43,370 --> 00:30:39,539
knows Georgia with the crazy black hair

722
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:43,380
oh yeah yeah he he gave a lecture at my

723
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:46,399
very first uh mufon meeting about

724
00:30:51,950 --> 00:30:48,840
ancient alien Theory

725
00:30:56,029 --> 00:30:51,960
that he is a proponent of that Eric Von

726
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,039
daniken essentially crafted in 1968 and

727
00:31:01,070 --> 00:30:58,799
Chariots of the Gods and he gave an hour

728
00:31:04,909 --> 00:31:01,080
and a half lecture with slides and

729
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:04,919
videos and and and still pictures of of

730
00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:07,919
cave drawings you know aliens and UFOs

731
00:31:14,529 --> 00:31:10,980
and cave drawings and and petroglyphs

732
00:31:18,889 --> 00:31:14,539
carved in stone by American Indians and

733
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:18,899
UFOs in Renaissance paintings

734
00:31:23,630 --> 00:31:21,360
um and then of course the pyramids in

735
00:31:26,930 --> 00:31:23,640
Egypt the structures in Central and

736
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:26,940
South America Stonehenge

737
00:31:30,409 --> 00:31:27,600
um

738
00:31:31,789 --> 00:31:30,419
Roswell it just it just in an hour and a

739
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:31,799
half it was essentially the history of

740
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:35,760
oh biblical biblical references Ezekiel

741
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:37,500
or the wheel within the wheel when he

742
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:38,640
was sleeping

743
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,240
and he just he did like UFO UF ufology's

744
00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:44,159
greatest hits in 90 minutes and I'm

745
00:31:48,110 --> 00:31:45,720
telling you Martin I was at the edge of

746
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:48,120
my seat and I was crying I was like I

747
00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:50,220
tears I'm like oh my God this is the

748
00:31:54,889 --> 00:31:52,140
greatest information I've ever heard in

749
00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:54,899
my life this was like going to a Master

750
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,760
Class of life

751
00:32:01,250 --> 00:31:59,279
all at once so at the end of the lecture

752
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,260
I went up to Giorgio I shook his hand I

753
00:32:05,810 --> 00:32:03,600
hugged him I said Giorgio I said you

754
00:32:08,930 --> 00:32:05,820
just changed my outlook on my entire

755
00:32:10,909 --> 00:32:08,940
life and it just it really did

756
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,919
since then I've been studying and

757
00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:12,720
reading and going to meetings and

758
00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:14,760
meeting people I've read hundreds of

759
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:16,980
books I've seen dozens of documentaries

760
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:19,260
I've been a member of mofon ever since

761
00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:21,600
then and um

762
00:32:26,930 --> 00:32:24,120
just it just opened my eyes

763
00:32:29,450 --> 00:32:26,940
that brings us to my third sighting so a

764
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:29,460
year later 2008

765
00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:32,580
at a UFO at a move on meeting

766
00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:35,340
was James Gilliland do you know who

767
00:32:42,889 --> 00:32:38,100
James is I've heard the name he does see

768
00:32:45,769 --> 00:32:42,899
uh yeah the sea City thing yeah okay so

769
00:32:50,330 --> 00:32:45,779
James Gilliland did a lecture move fund

770
00:32:52,010 --> 00:32:50,340
La 2008. he owns eseti Ranch in

771
00:32:54,590 --> 00:32:52,020
Washington State

772
00:32:57,289 --> 00:32:54,600
at the base of Mount Adams and it's a

773
00:32:59,690 --> 00:32:57,299
world famous UFO hot spot for sighting

774
00:33:02,210 --> 00:32:59,700
it's been a hot spot for sightings

775
00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:02,220
apparently for hundreds of years the

776
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:04,200
American Indians who used to live there

777
00:33:08,990 --> 00:33:07,200
called Mount Adams the the mountain of

778
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:09,000
Shining Light because they used to see

779
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:12,320
lights coming and going from Mount Adams

780
00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:15,840
so he gave a lecture about his Ranch and

781
00:33:20,049 --> 00:33:17,340
he said you know this Fourth of July

782
00:33:23,330 --> 00:33:20,059
weekend I'm doing a three-day open house

783
00:33:25,789 --> 00:33:23,340
UFO seminars during the day and we're

784
00:33:27,769 --> 00:33:25,799
going to look at the sky tonight

785
00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:27,779
so I was with a girlfriend at the time

786
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:29,460
named Barbara and I said Barbara can we

787
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:31,260
please go do this together and she goes

788
00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:33,600
oh okay you and your UFOs okay

789
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:35,340
so we spent three days at James

790
00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,600
gillilance Ranch Fourth of July 2008.

791
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:41,580
and during the days it was people like

792
00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:44,700
William Henry and and Nick Pope and and

793
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,120
uh documentary films and slide shows and

794
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,399
biblical references and the pyramids and

795
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:52,799
orbs and all these wonderful things

796
00:33:57,950 --> 00:33:55,919
and at night they would build a bonfire

797
00:34:00,590 --> 00:33:57,960
and people would dance around the

798
00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,600
bonfire play guitars and and tambourine

799
00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:02,399
and chant and sing and it was very

800
00:34:08,270 --> 00:34:05,460
lovely Outdoors at night and huge Open

801
00:34:10,070 --> 00:34:08,280
Sky crystal clear you can see every Star

802
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:10,080
purple

803
00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:12,000
so the first night I think was a Friday

804
00:34:15,710 --> 00:34:13,980
night and we're all out there for hours

805
00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:15,720
and hours and when you're looking out

806
00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:17,460
for hours your neck kind of gets a

807
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:19,740
little bit tired Martin after a while so

808
00:34:22,970 --> 00:34:21,119
the first night Friday night we're

809
00:34:25,250 --> 00:34:22,980
looking looking nothing

810
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:25,260
the next day Saturday more lectures more

811
00:34:28,369 --> 00:34:26,760
films we're looking up Saturday night

812
00:34:30,649 --> 00:34:28,379
looking at the sky hours and hours

813
00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:30,659
absolutely nothing

814
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,720
it's a third day Sunday lectures films

815
00:34:37,550 --> 00:34:35,280
Sunday night we're looking up again

816
00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:37,560
nothing and I said to my girlfriend I

817
00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:38,700
said you know what why don't we leave

818
00:34:43,129 --> 00:34:40,980
early we could beat the traffic there

819
00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:43,139
were probably 300 people

820
00:34:48,889 --> 00:34:45,540
um no sooner did I say that Martin that

821
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:48,899
out of absolutely nowhere a fairly

822
00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:51,599
medium-sized

823
00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:53,460
uh object

824
00:34:58,670 --> 00:34:56,280
it looked like a black teardrop it

825
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:58,680
appeared it just appeared

826
00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:01,440
directly above our heads so let's say

827
00:35:07,490 --> 00:35:03,540
200 300 people and a couple hundred feet

828
00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:07,500
black teardrop directly over our heads I

829
00:35:12,890 --> 00:35:09,900
remember it cut off the moonlight so so

830
00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:12,900
it was fairly large and then under the

831
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:15,180
underneath part of The Craft

832
00:35:23,329 --> 00:35:20,160
was a brilliant emerald green light that

833
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:23,339
turned on and off like this above us

834
00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:26,880
several times in our life like hello how

835
00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:29,700
are you we're here we know you've been

836
00:35:33,410 --> 00:35:31,500
waiting for us we hope you have a nice

837
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,420
evening we love you you know

838
00:35:36,829 --> 00:35:35,760
everything's cool we just thought you

839
00:35:38,690 --> 00:35:36,839
know we're in the neighborhood we

840
00:35:41,089 --> 00:35:38,700
thought we'd say hello right so flashing

841
00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:41,099
on enough brilliant emerald green like

842
00:35:45,170 --> 00:35:43,020
the Green from the Emerald City and The

843
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:45,180
Wizard of Oz

844
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:46,980
and then it turned out the light turned

845
00:35:55,310 --> 00:35:50,640
off and the crap just it's Shadow I just

846
00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:55,320
vanished wow it didn't slowly it took up

847
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,500
and and I cried I cried people were

848
00:36:03,170 --> 00:36:00,720
crying people were hugging and kissing

849
00:36:04,609 --> 00:36:03,180
and I'm telling you man that that was

850
00:36:06,410 --> 00:36:04,619
not man-made

851
00:36:09,890 --> 00:36:06,420
how many people would you say that

852
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:12,710
at least at least 200 250 people at

853
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,359
least wow and it was a group there was a

854
00:36:20,450 --> 00:36:17,760
group sighting and like I said seriously

855
00:36:22,609 --> 00:36:20,460
people were crying people I cried I was

856
00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:22,619
touched I could still feel it in my I

857
00:36:29,630 --> 00:36:25,260
can still feel it right here in my heart

858
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:29,640
it was a warm profound

859
00:36:37,069 --> 00:36:34,079
mess message you know um communication

860
00:36:39,410 --> 00:36:37,079
interaction and I'm telling you man that

861
00:36:42,589 --> 00:36:39,420
thing was not invented by my father or

862
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:42,599
the military this was something warm and

863
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,260
wonderful and and life and living this

864
00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:49,200
was not a military craft I know it in my

865
00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:51,240
heart this was this was them

866
00:36:57,230 --> 00:36:54,420
so I so my third UFO I can honestly tell

867
00:36:58,609 --> 00:36:57,240
you with with from the bottom of my

868
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:58,619
heart I believe that was

869
00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:00,720
extraterrestrial crap

870
00:37:06,109 --> 00:37:03,060
you know it's always curious that I had

871
00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:06,119
uh Brandon fugle on last week from the

872
00:37:11,690 --> 00:37:08,700
Skinwalker Ranch it's always curious why

873
00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:11,700
they're hot spots you know uh and the

874
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:14,520
different theories of why that is so uh

875
00:37:17,950 --> 00:37:16,140
so this is right at the base of Mount

876
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:17,960
Adams I'm wondering

877
00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:19,920
geologically if there's anything

878
00:37:24,410 --> 00:37:22,859
interesting about that area or the

879
00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:24,420
mountain itself

880
00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:27,420
uh yeah well Kenneth Arnold's citing

881
00:37:33,890 --> 00:37:31,320
Kenneth Arnold June 47 was I I think it

882
00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:33,900
was at Mount Shasta I think it was it

883
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,140
was in the uh in the uh not the Cascades

884
00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:39,599
in the uh or wait wait a minute where

885
00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:41,460
was that no that was a mount shaft so

886
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:43,380
that was up in Washington wasn't it yeah

887
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:45,780
yeah all right so Kenneth Arnold's

888
00:37:50,089 --> 00:37:48,000
sighting was it a mountain and mount

889
00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:50,099
Adams is part of the same range it's

890
00:37:53,930 --> 00:37:52,380
part of the things yeah

891
00:37:56,690 --> 00:37:53,940
so so

892
00:37:58,970 --> 00:37:56,700
there you have two you know I saw

893
00:38:00,829 --> 00:37:58,980
something the Indians called it this the

894
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,839
mountain of Shining Light Kenneth Arnold

895
00:38:04,370 --> 00:38:02,400
saw something I forget which mountain

896
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:04,380
but it's the same range in Washington

897
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:08,520
state yeah so I look if you want to

898
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,040
believe there's a there's a base there

899
00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:13,680
inside one of the one or more of the

900
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,420
mountains if there's a base there I

901
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:17,040
would believe that I would absolutely

902
00:38:30,170 --> 00:38:27,410
you know I spent a lot of time around

903
00:38:32,930 --> 00:38:30,180
Mount Shasta and that that whole area

904
00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:32,940
that has this it's like a mysterious

905
00:38:38,089 --> 00:38:35,940
area I don't know how to describe it I

906
00:38:40,430 --> 00:38:38,099
felt that way in two different places in

907
00:38:43,370 --> 00:38:40,440
the country that I visited and at that

908
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,380
time I was not really into the UFO topic

909
00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:45,359
or anything when I was there and I'd go

910
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:47,820
there a number of times a year

911
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:50,880
um and then I was at Four Corners and

912
00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:53,760
that area felt really this like a weird

913
00:38:58,910 --> 00:38:56,760
feeling in both areas and somewhere in

914
00:39:01,550 --> 00:38:58,920
New Mexico was another time in this late

915
00:39:04,609 --> 00:39:01,560
70s and I do think you and I are about

916
00:39:07,790 --> 00:39:04,619
the same age so I was uh out there and I

917
00:39:10,430 --> 00:39:07,800
but there are those places that you do

918
00:39:12,829 --> 00:39:10,440
like I mean at least I do I get like

919
00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:12,839
this weird feeling Shasta was one of

920
00:39:17,150 --> 00:39:14,520
those places and I understand there's a

921
00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:17,160
lot of some type of activity going on

922
00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:18,900
there there's a lot of people reporting

923
00:39:24,349 --> 00:39:22,380
you know seeing things in that area

924
00:39:26,510 --> 00:39:24,359
I think there was an episode of Ancient

925
00:39:29,089 --> 00:39:26,520
Aliens I believe that they did a look at

926
00:39:31,490 --> 00:39:29,099
Mount Shasta I think I think you're

927
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,500
right you should go to either Ranch

928
00:39:35,390 --> 00:39:33,359
Garden you should you know go for a

929
00:39:37,370 --> 00:39:35,400
weekend you'll see you'll see I'm pretty

930
00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:37,380
sure you'll see something man

931
00:39:41,329 --> 00:39:39,180
well that would be fascinating by the

932
00:39:43,010 --> 00:39:41,339
way speaking of going somewhere I do

933
00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:43,020
believe at this point that I will be

934
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:45,540
going to contact in the desert that's

935
00:39:51,770 --> 00:39:48,000
coming up on the very first uh weekend I

936
00:39:54,650 --> 00:39:51,780
believe in uh June so if anyone plans on

937
00:39:58,250 --> 00:39:54,660
going there uh look me up you can always

938
00:40:00,109 --> 00:39:58,260
email me at Martin podcast UFO and you

939
00:40:02,690 --> 00:40:00,119
know maybe we'll do some type of uh

940
00:40:04,130 --> 00:40:02,700
audience and uh interview some people

941
00:40:06,890 --> 00:40:04,140
and have a little live audience or

942
00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:06,900
something somewhere so anyway I'll stay

943
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:10,020
in touch on that and but anyway so this

944
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:13,200
brings us to the point with uh of your

945
00:40:18,829 --> 00:40:16,079
book and right and how long did it take

946
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:18,839
you to write it and and what basically

947
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:21,359
you said kind of the Genesis of the book

948
00:40:26,030 --> 00:40:24,240
was in that cafe that you spoke about

949
00:40:27,710 --> 00:40:26,040
um how did all that how did all that

950
00:40:29,050 --> 00:40:27,720
fall together all of a sudden like that

951
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:29,060
it

952
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:33,359
was a gift my book was a gift and here

953
00:40:38,329 --> 00:40:36,240
it is actually Nick by the way Nick

954
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:38,339
if you can see this Nick Pope signed

955
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:40,800
this copy of it for me oh yeah he gave

956
00:40:44,990 --> 00:40:42,480
me this quote it's on the cover it says

957
00:40:47,390 --> 00:40:45,000
a delightful tale of Wonder and hope

958
00:40:49,310 --> 00:40:47,400
Nick Pope so Nick Pope is my new friend

959
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,320
I met him recently

960
00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:51,599
yeah nice guy

961
00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:53,220
so um

962
00:41:00,770 --> 00:40:56,700
okay so my dad passed 2017. I had the

963
00:41:02,089 --> 00:41:00,780
memory the division of the of the V

964
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:02,099
craft

965
00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:05,280
and I got a pen at this at this Deli and

966
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:07,140
I wrote down on the paper I wrote down

967
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:08,640
write a book

968
00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:11,760
I put um lead character

969
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:15,180
discovers his late father worked on UFOs

970
00:41:20,930 --> 00:41:18,000
I wrote that sentence down and then I

971
00:41:22,670 --> 00:41:20,940
wrote Capital a capital T capital c

972
00:41:24,890 --> 00:41:22,680
those letters and I didn't know what

973
00:41:27,950 --> 00:41:24,900
they were Martin how much like ATC I'm

974
00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:27,960
like okay God what is that what does

975
00:41:31,970 --> 00:41:29,820
that mean and I looked at it for a few

976
00:41:34,490 --> 00:41:31,980
minutes and I'm like they came like I

977
00:41:36,650 --> 00:41:34,500
had aliens they came they came after

978
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:36,660
they came okay after they came and that

979
00:41:41,089 --> 00:41:38,760
was it that was my title of my book

980
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,099
so I got my pastrami sandwich I ate it

981
00:41:46,910 --> 00:41:43,680
really inhaled it I came home in the

982
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,920
next eight months 12 15 hours a day for

983
00:41:50,450 --> 00:41:49,200
the next eight months I wrote the hell

984
00:41:51,650 --> 00:41:50,460
out of this book

985
00:41:54,349 --> 00:41:51,660
and

986
00:41:57,530 --> 00:41:54,359
that's how the book was born it was

987
00:42:00,050 --> 00:41:57,540
inspired unto me the storyline of the

988
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:00,060
book is the following

989
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:03,599
I imagined the lead character who was

990
00:42:08,690 --> 00:42:06,780
down on his luck hated his life his

991
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:08,700
company went bankrupt his children don't

992
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:11,160
speak to him he's divorced he's unlucky

993
00:42:16,190 --> 00:42:13,920
in love he just hates his life and on

994
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:16,200
his 70th birthday he decides to commit

995
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:18,000
suicide because he just wants to be dead

996
00:42:22,190 --> 00:42:19,680
he hates his wife

997
00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:22,200
so the first scene in the whole book is

998
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,140
this guy he drives out to Malibu he

999
00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:27,359
takes a big bottle of vodka a big bottle

1000
00:42:31,010 --> 00:42:29,160
of sleeping pills he drinks all the

1001
00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:31,020
Vodka takes all the sleep because takes

1002
00:42:35,329 --> 00:42:32,220
off his clothes

1003
00:42:37,310 --> 00:42:35,339
goes out into the Pacific ocean swims

1004
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:37,320
out to sea and all he wants to do is

1005
00:42:43,310 --> 00:42:40,079
drown all he wants to do is dress

1006
00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:43,320
as he's drowning an enormous UFO craft

1007
00:42:48,349 --> 00:42:46,140
comes up from from the Pacific Ocean

1008
00:42:51,770 --> 00:42:48,359
comes out of the Pacific Ocean directly

1009
00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:51,780
above him being to him on board so saves

1010
00:42:55,849 --> 00:42:52,740
his life

1011
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:55,859
and then a huge this is a huge huge

1012
00:43:00,530 --> 00:42:59,040
diamond shape brilliant multi-colored

1013
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:00,540
craft enormous

1014
00:43:06,170 --> 00:43:04,079
and it slowly hovers from Malibu all the

1015
00:43:08,930 --> 00:43:06,180
way across Los Angeles

1016
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:08,940
ending up at Dodger Stadium

1017
00:43:12,770 --> 00:43:10,859
and it goes to Dodger Stadium where it

1018
00:43:15,410 --> 00:43:12,780
hovers for a while

1019
00:43:18,670 --> 00:43:15,420
while it's hovering there the police the

1020
00:43:23,329 --> 00:43:18,680
fire engines ambulances media military

1021
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,339
vehicles cameras microphones all these

1022
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:25,200
people and Technologies they're all

1023
00:43:31,849 --> 00:43:27,839
coming to the Dodger Stadium to record

1024
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:31,859
and witness this event clearly aliens

1025
00:43:35,569 --> 00:43:33,839
have arrived on Earth and they're

1026
00:43:37,250 --> 00:43:35,579
they're here now there's no mistake

1027
00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:37,260
because this is not a man-made craft

1028
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:38,640
obviously

1029
00:43:45,609 --> 00:43:41,760
so all these uh people show up at Dodger

1030
00:43:49,569 --> 00:43:45,619
Stadium the craft opens up two beautiful

1031
00:43:53,290 --> 00:43:49,579
tall white Nordic alien seven feet tall

1032
00:43:56,569 --> 00:43:53,300
long white hair pale skin blue eyes

1033
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:56,579
shimmering silvery robes she slowly

1034
00:44:02,329 --> 00:44:00,960
descends onto the infield and they say

1035
00:44:05,089 --> 00:44:02,339
people of Earth

1036
00:44:08,030 --> 00:44:05,099
don't be alarmed don't be afraid we're

1037
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:08,040
here to help you we love mankind we've

1038
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:10,079
been here for tens of thousands of years

1039
00:44:15,710 --> 00:44:13,680
we helped create your civilization we

1040
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,720
love you and

1041
00:44:20,270 --> 00:44:17,760
um we felt now would be a good time for

1042
00:44:23,390 --> 00:44:20,280
us to reveal ourselves so we can help

1043
00:44:25,250 --> 00:44:23,400
you solve the problems that you have on

1044
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:25,260
Earth that you've been unable to solve

1045
00:44:28,670 --> 00:44:26,400
all this time

1046
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,680
then they beam down this guy that they

1047
00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:30,960
just saved this naked guy he's flopping

1048
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,180
around like a fish in the scheme of life

1049
00:44:39,530 --> 00:44:35,520
and they say we have a relationship with

1050
00:44:42,349 --> 00:44:39,540
this man be kind to him respect him if

1051
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,359
you have problems bring them to him he

1052
00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:44,640
will be our conduit to Mankind we will

1053
00:44:48,650 --> 00:44:46,920
only work through him this man is

1054
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:48,660
special to us

1055
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:51,599
they lower the guy on to second base the

1056
00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:53,700
aliens get on the craft the craft takes

1057
00:44:59,150 --> 00:44:56,040
off and now this guy this naked guy 70

1058
00:45:01,609 --> 00:44:59,160
years old on his birthday is naked on

1059
00:45:04,250 --> 00:45:01,619
second basis Dodger Stadium and all the

1060
00:45:05,050 --> 00:45:04,260
military and police and media they're

1061
00:45:08,510 --> 00:45:05,060
all

1062
00:45:11,089 --> 00:45:08,520
hovering over him and he looks up and he

1063
00:45:12,290 --> 00:45:11,099
has no idea what's happening is it his

1064
00:45:15,050 --> 00:45:12,300
slightest clue

1065
00:45:16,609 --> 00:45:15,060
that's the first few scenes of of of the

1066
00:45:18,589 --> 00:45:16,619
of the story

1067
00:45:21,530 --> 00:45:18,599
from there they take him to the White

1068
00:45:24,609 --> 00:45:21,540
House he meets the president and in my

1069
00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:24,619
book I base the president on a

1070
00:45:29,410 --> 00:45:27,300
African-American woman in her 70s and I

1071
00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:29,420
based her Martin on Oprah Winfrey

1072
00:45:33,770 --> 00:45:32,099
because when I first wrote this draft of

1073
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:33,780
the book there was a rumor that Oprah

1074
00:45:38,329 --> 00:45:35,280
was going to think about running for

1075
00:45:40,250 --> 00:45:38,339
president I remember that yeah so this

1076
00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:40,260
guy his name is Jonathan Tuckerman so

1077
00:45:44,329 --> 00:45:42,180
Jonathan Tuckerman they bring him to the

1078
00:45:47,089 --> 00:45:44,339
president who's sort of Oprah Winfrey

1079
00:45:49,010 --> 00:45:47,099
and she goes Mr Tuckerman who the hell

1080
00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:49,020
are you you know you were just

1081
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,020
you were just presented to the world a

1082
00:45:57,650 --> 00:45:54,720
live Global live TV by these beautiful

1083
00:46:00,050 --> 00:45:57,660
incredible aliens in a spaceship who are

1084
00:46:01,790 --> 00:46:00,060
you and he goes Madam president I don't

1085
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,800
have the slightest idea what's happening

1086
00:46:06,349 --> 00:46:04,079
he goes I do all I do try to kill myself

1087
00:46:08,750 --> 00:46:06,359
all I wanted to be was dead right now

1088
00:46:10,250 --> 00:46:08,760
and instead I'm here with you and it

1089
00:46:11,870 --> 00:46:10,260
just was saved by alien things I have

1090
00:46:13,970 --> 00:46:11,880
the slightest idea what's happening and

1091
00:46:16,970 --> 00:46:13,980
that's the slightest clue

1092
00:46:19,790 --> 00:46:16,980
so anyway the president sets this guy up

1093
00:46:22,089 --> 00:46:19,800
in at the U.N she gives him an office at

1094
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,099
the U.N he becomes the world's first

1095
00:46:25,790 --> 00:46:24,480
Interstellar ambassador

1096
00:46:28,849 --> 00:46:25,800
and

1097
00:46:31,309 --> 00:46:28,859
he he's reunited with his children he

1098
00:46:34,970 --> 00:46:31,319
develops this team of of people at the

1099
00:46:37,130 --> 00:46:34,980
UN and the aliens visit this guy once a

1100
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:37,140
month they hover over the U.N once a

1101
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:38,640
month for the next year

1102
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:41,040
and each of the months of the next year

1103
00:46:46,130 --> 00:46:44,400
they say to him Mr Tuckerman what what

1104
00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:46,140
do your people on Earth what would they

1105
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:47,640
like us to do

1106
00:46:52,970 --> 00:46:49,920
well the first time he meets with them

1107
00:46:55,069 --> 00:46:52,980
he he said you know let's can you guys

1108
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,079
get rid of nuclear weapons he goes that

1109
00:46:59,870 --> 00:46:57,839
would be a good one let's do that uh

1110
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:59,880
it's a good start let's get rid of every

1111
00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:01,680
nuclear weapon and every biological

1112
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:04,260
weapon on the earth if I have a wish and

1113
00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:06,240
they say okay we can do that that's no

1114
00:47:11,089 --> 00:47:08,460
problem and over the course of the next

1115
00:47:13,849 --> 00:47:11,099
week the alien craft goes all over the

1116
00:47:15,950 --> 00:47:13,859
world and it melts essentially melts all

1117
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:15,960
these weapons all every country America

1118
00:47:20,329 --> 00:47:17,839
Russia China

1119
00:47:21,710 --> 00:47:20,339
Israel it's just all countries are

1120
00:47:24,530 --> 00:47:21,720
equally neutral

1121
00:47:26,450 --> 00:47:24,540
and at the end of that time the New York

1122
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:26,460
Times has a huge Banner that says no

1123
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:28,319
nukes the biggest Banner in the history

1124
00:47:38,089 --> 00:47:35,930
all you guys could do sure you and I are

1125
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:38,099
the same age right yeah so that's the

1126
00:47:41,630 --> 00:47:39,660
first month so after the first month

1127
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,640
people are coming to this guy Mr

1128
00:47:44,990 --> 00:47:43,440
Tuckerman yeah thank you you got rid of

1129
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:45,000
nuclear this is incredible the

1130
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:47,700
president's happy uh the military of the

1131
00:47:52,849 --> 00:47:50,480
US is not happy yeah

1132
00:47:55,309 --> 00:47:52,859
regular people are happy then the next

1133
00:47:59,809 --> 00:47:58,309
um he says you know what we're there are

1134
00:48:02,450 --> 00:47:59,819
still people around the world that are

1135
00:48:04,670 --> 00:48:02,460
starving there are people in Africa and

1136
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:04,680
and parts of the Middle East and parts

1137
00:48:08,690 --> 00:48:06,960
of Asia that are starving there's no

1138
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:08,700
reason for anyone in Mexico there are

1139
00:48:13,069 --> 00:48:10,400
people that are starving on this planet

1140
00:48:14,990 --> 00:48:13,079
they go don't worry about it they go

1141
00:48:17,930 --> 00:48:15,000
have you ever heard of Manna From Heaven

1142
00:48:19,309 --> 00:48:17,940
yeah a manner from heaven he's in the

1143
00:48:22,670 --> 00:48:19,319
Jewish Bible

1144
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:22,680
during the story of Moses and the Exodus

1145
00:48:28,670 --> 00:48:25,440
and so the character says to the aliens

1146
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,680
you guys did Manna From Heaven and they

1147
00:48:32,809 --> 00:48:30,720
go yeah and then they go who do you

1148
00:48:35,150 --> 00:48:32,819
think parted the Red Sea you think Moses

1149
00:48:37,370 --> 00:48:35,160
part of the Red Sea no it was our people

1150
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:37,380
he goes you pretty part of the Red Sea

1151
00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:39,960
for Moses so then they provide Manna

1152
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:41,460
From Heaven for people around the world

1153
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:43,200
who are starving

1154
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:45,599
and every month something major they

1155
00:48:51,050 --> 00:48:48,000
provide clean water around the world

1156
00:48:53,630 --> 00:48:51,060
they provide a device that that offers

1157
00:48:56,450 --> 00:48:53,640
free energy so we don't need gas or oil

1158
00:48:59,150 --> 00:48:56,460
or nuclear power anymore

1159
00:49:02,750 --> 00:48:59,160
um they eliminate the emotion of Anger

1160
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:02,760
from human human beings and in so doing

1161
00:49:08,329 --> 00:49:05,700
have human beings turn in their guns

1162
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:08,339
people human beings no longer are angry

1163
00:49:13,069 --> 00:49:10,500
or have a hatred so they turn in their

1164
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:13,079
guns and they all over the world they

1165
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:15,599
bury mountains of guns so guns are

1166
00:49:18,050 --> 00:49:17,400
eliminated

1167
00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:18,060
um

1168
00:49:22,130 --> 00:49:20,280
the reverse climate change they go

1169
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:22,140
around the planet and they fix the ozone

1170
00:49:28,550 --> 00:49:25,200
layer and they stop the melting of the

1171
00:49:31,790 --> 00:49:28,560
polar ice caps so every month for a year

1172
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:31,800
this guy suggests to the aliens a major

1173
00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:33,839
problem on Earth and and essentially

1174
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:35,700
it's like the show I Dream of Genie with

1175
00:49:40,430 --> 00:49:38,400
Larry Hagman and Barbara oh yeah they're

1176
00:49:44,510 --> 00:49:40,440
like genies and they go okay your wish

1177
00:49:47,809 --> 00:49:44,520
is my yeah and so a year later so this

1178
00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:47,819
guy on day one he's drowning day one

1179
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:50,760
he's driving one year later exactly he

1180
00:49:54,890 --> 00:49:52,800
wins the Nobel Peace Prize

1181
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:54,900
he's the most famous man in the world

1182
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,599
he's friends with alien they call him

1183
00:50:02,210 --> 00:50:00,240
the hero of her and his best friend is

1184
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:02,220
the president of the United States he

1185
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:03,660
falls in love with this woman beautiful

1186
00:50:10,130 --> 00:50:07,680
woman who is his doctor who who um he

1187
00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:10,140
met the night he was abductive and he

1188
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,540
fell in love with her so a year later

1189
00:50:17,329 --> 00:50:14,880
his life is completely the opposite of

1190
00:50:19,690 --> 00:50:17,339
what it was on page one that's the first

1191
00:50:23,089 --> 00:50:19,700
third of the book

1192
00:50:24,770 --> 00:50:23,099
the tribute part to my dad is in the

1193
00:50:27,650 --> 00:50:24,780
second part of the book

1194
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,660
and for the first year people kept

1195
00:50:31,309 --> 00:50:29,280
saying Mr Tuckerman what you're doing

1196
00:50:33,170 --> 00:50:31,319
with the aliens this is great this is

1197
00:50:36,290 --> 00:50:33,180
fantastically it's the greatest it's a

1198
00:50:37,309 --> 00:50:36,300
new age for mankind but why did they

1199
00:50:39,230 --> 00:50:37,319
pick you

1200
00:50:40,970 --> 00:50:39,240
there's eight billion people in the

1201
00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:40,980
world why did they pick you and he goes

1202
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:42,480
I don't have the slightest idea

1203
00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:44,400
so they keep asking him don't you think

1204
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,099
it's time you ask them why you

1205
00:50:51,890 --> 00:50:49,440
so in the second third of the book he

1206
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:51,900
goes to them he goes excuse me thanks

1207
00:50:55,130 --> 00:50:53,400
for everything you've done for me you've

1208
00:50:58,250 --> 00:50:55,140
changed my life in every positive thing

1209
00:51:00,410 --> 00:50:58,260
why did you pick Boeing let me and it

1210
00:51:02,630 --> 00:51:00,420
turns out that the aliens were friends

1211
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:02,640
with his parents

1212
00:51:08,809 --> 00:51:05,359
70 years earlier

1213
00:51:12,049 --> 00:51:08,819
and it turns out that his father his

1214
00:51:14,569 --> 00:51:12,059
late father was the UFO researcher and a

1215
00:51:17,390 --> 00:51:14,579
scientist working for the military

1216
00:51:19,790 --> 00:51:17,400
and his father had an interaction with a

1217
00:51:23,390 --> 00:51:19,800
little baby alien and saved a little

1218
00:51:25,490 --> 00:51:23,400
baby alien's life 70 years earlier

1219
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,500
something that the lead character didn't

1220
00:51:30,829 --> 00:51:27,839
know never knew never knew

1221
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:30,839
so these aliens are paying back to this

1222
00:51:37,970 --> 00:51:34,800
guy a gift that his parents did for them

1223
00:51:39,890 --> 00:51:37,980
70 years earlier and then I bring my dad

1224
00:51:41,630 --> 00:51:39,900
and I have my dad as though he were part

1225
00:51:43,790 --> 00:51:41,640
of Project Blue Book

1226
00:51:47,109 --> 00:51:43,800
and I explained what Project Blue Book

1227
00:51:49,730 --> 00:51:47,119
was and I talk about uh

1228
00:51:51,950 --> 00:51:49,740
the dad character in this book is

1229
00:51:53,809 --> 00:51:51,960
essentially my my father so that's a

1230
00:51:55,849 --> 00:51:53,819
tribute to my father

1231
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:55,859
well I hate to say this but we only have

1232
00:52:02,210 --> 00:51:59,280
a minute to wrap it up okay so complete

1233
00:52:05,210 --> 00:52:02,220
yeah here's my book it's it's been very

1234
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:05,220
well received it's on Amazon Kindle and

1235
00:52:12,010 --> 00:52:08,640
Prince after they came Dan Harari and if

1236
00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:12,020
you want to reach me I am Dan Harari

1237
00:52:19,069 --> 00:52:15,559
author.com it's my website Dan Harari

1238
00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:19,079
author.com love to talk to anybody I'm

1239
00:52:23,630 --> 00:52:22,140
fascinated by all things aliens and UFOs

1240
00:52:25,849 --> 00:52:23,640
and I love

1241
00:52:28,430 --> 00:52:25,859
people like Martin who have given me a

1242
00:52:30,290 --> 00:52:28,440
platform to talk about this and love to

1243
00:52:33,230 --> 00:52:30,300
hear from anybody who has any thoughts

1244
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:33,240
you know uh well you know it's uh the

1245
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:36,240
the thought of you behind your book is

1246
00:52:40,670 --> 00:52:38,400
is really interesting and would be

1247
00:52:44,030 --> 00:52:40,680
wonderful if it could happen you know

1248
00:52:45,410 --> 00:52:44,040
and I think I think we we a lot of times

1249
00:52:48,770 --> 00:52:45,420
people

1250
00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:48,780
kind of wish okay save us please save us

1251
00:52:53,809 --> 00:52:51,599
you know I think that that's the way a

1252
00:52:56,450 --> 00:52:53,819
lot of people have they at that attitude

1253
00:52:59,089 --> 00:52:56,460
that uh we have to try how to save

1254
00:53:01,069 --> 00:52:59,099
ourselves you know but anyway thank you

1255
00:53:02,510 --> 00:53:01,079
so much it's been a real pleasure Dan oh

1256
00:53:04,190 --> 00:53:02,520
it's great it was so much fun thank you

1257
00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:04,200
Martin I really appreciate it man thank

1258
00:53:09,049 --> 00:53:06,780
you you bet take care

1259
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:09,059
all right everyone so we'll be back next

1260
00:53:14,569 --> 00:53:12,960
week with Heidi Gad and uh I think

1261
00:53:15,710 --> 00:53:14,579
that's about it I can't think there was

1262
00:53:18,109 --> 00:53:15,720
something I was going to announce don't

1263
00:53:20,270 --> 00:53:18,119
forget to check out the uh YouTube

1264
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,280
videos on the channel here with uh Chris

1265
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:22,800
Leto and myself and thank you everyone

1266
00:53:35,570 --> 00:53:25,090
and keep your eyes to the sky